Giberson vs. Mohler and the issue of public persona

I wrestled with this blog post.  I couldn’t decide whether to put it on my blog or on a friend’s blog as an anonymous post.  The decision was not an easy one, but I ultimately decided that having the courage to stand behind my words should outweigh my desire to not want to draw attention to myself.  I have not sought to boost my readership by signaling anyone out or to be a hypocrite and build my own “persona” (see below).

Either way, I knew this was a lose-lose decision, and decided that courage should trump anonymity.

Two recent stories have piqued my interest.  First, readers of this blog are likely familiar with the discussion/verbal sparring that has been going on between Albert Mohler, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, “the flagship school of the Southern Baptist Convention”, and BioLogos Forum contributors (Karl Giberson, in particular) regarding evolution and Christianity.  This link (and the links provided herein) provides the backdrop to the story: http://biologos.org/blog/darwin-and-dr-mohler-the-truth-comes-out/

As will be seen shortly, I side with BioLogos.  While readers may disagree, I don’t believe that this has direct bearing on the point of my post.

BioLogos seeks to promote, and admittedly struggles from time to time in so doing, the harmony of faith and science.  They go to great lengths to show that intelligent design is unscientific and evolution is supported by an overwhelming amount of evidence.  Albert Mohler, on the other hand, believes that “the theory of evolution is incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus Christ even as it is in direct conflict with any faithful reading of the Scriptures.”   He, in essence, is saying that it is impossible to believe in evolution and be a Christian.  This will likely offend the many millions worldwide who are Christian and accept the findings of science.   So be it, I suppose.

The second story involves the infamous “Godless liberal biologist”, PZ Myers the wonderful wordsmith whose blog, Pharyngula, gets high volume traffic, and when not focused on the horrors of Christianity (conservative Evangelicals, really) can be quite a fun read.   He recently went through a cardiac scare and had a stent put in, but appears, thankfully enough, to be recovering well.  His readers absolutely love him as witnessed by the greater than 800 comments posted in response to the blog entry first mentioning his heart issues.  What shouldn’t have surprised me, but still made me take note was the second to last sentence of the post, “Meanwhile, relax, chill, don’t panic, and most importantly, don’t waste your time with prayers. Ever.” (http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/thats_not_a_heart_its_a_flaili.php)

These two stories about men on completely opposite sides of the spectrum made me think about the issue of personal beliefs and opinions versus public persona.  I, obviously, have little to no readership or public importance when compared to these men.   If they’re the Yankees, I’m the little league team that didn’t win a game this year.  So I must admit that I don’t have the foggiest conception of what it’s like to be in their shoes.

But… that doesn’t mean I can’t share a comment or two regarding these stories from an observer’s perspective.  Both of these men have a large following that they would likely lose if either were to change their rather demonstrative views (Mohler: strong Biblical conservatism, Myers: science leading inevitably to atheism) or if they even hinted at the validity of an alternative viewpoint.   Of course, it seems that to get a large following one needs to have these types of strong views.  Proclaiming the beauty of the “inside voice” gray in a world that’s filled primarily with black and white shouting at one another is just not going to attract the masses.  This is particularly evident on the internet where people treat each other and different positions with disgust, and has led me to believe that comments on blogs, unless they are on the small mom-and-pop sites, do nothing but a disservice to real discussion (see previous post: http://scienceandtheology.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/houston-we-still-have-a-problem-rjs-jesus-creed-blog-commenting-and-conversation/)

Getting back to the point at hand… I wonder whether these two men agree all of the time with their respective statements.  Does Mohler really believe that you absolutely cannot be a Christian without being an anti-evolutionist re: Creationist?  Did Myers for one second think a prayer might not be worthless?  Of course, I would assume that both would say vehemently, “I stand by my statements.” (And Myers would call me four names and stupid.)

Why? Because they have to.   They and their followers (who are NOT mindless, I’m not saying that) together have built up a public persona.  Even if there was a shred of doubt regarding these positions in their minds, they couldn’t admit it unless they were willing to accept the backlash in both reputation and finances.  I would like to think that I would be willing to do this but until I join the Major Leagues, I suppose I’ll never know.

So what do you think?  Do you think leading figures like these have doubts about the positions that they put forth so strongly?  Are they afraid to admit this?  Or do you think they’re resolute in their beliefs?  Perhaps the faithful following functions to make them even more unyielding?

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Biology professor/mentor who loves sports, laughter, science & religion/theology (especially mind, evolution, soul, and what it means to be human), and most of all, his bride and baby girl.
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11 Responses to Giberson vs. Mohler and the issue of public persona

  1. justintopp says:

    Note: A much more public story that could have been cited in this post involves Christopher Hitchens and his recent cancer diagnosis. I purposely avoided this story because Hitchens has become the target of “Christians” who believe the cancer is the result of God’s judgement. So he is, in most of his writing, responding to them and not the rest/majority of Christians who simply hopes that he gets better. Come to think of it, this story seems like it would have been a good one to highlight both sides of the persona equation…

  2. Stuart says:

    Good post and good questions and points raised.

    Obviously I can’t see into the minds of these popular figures, but intuitively I recognise that they daren’t deviate from their mantra.

    It must be truly awful to be “boxed in” in this manner. I’m grateful that I recognise the more I learn, the more I accept I don’t know, and I am open to cognitive challenges and re-appraisal of my paradigms.

    Blogging in the small way that we do can expose our changes in paradigm to criticism, as some regular commentators may feel alienated or betrayed and this may influence the slant we portray. Imagine this on a MASSIVE scale, very daunting indeed.

    You did the right thing with this blog post and I also advocate a bold declaration of what we believe including admitting where we may have erred and changed our minds.

    Not so easy for those of a high profile….

  3. Jon says:

    Good post Justin. I usually don’t comment on things either because a) i don’t have enough knowledge of a topic to continue a meaningful discussion or b) see things as grey and am not like those who see things in black and white thus commenting on such a topic proves pointless.

    This post i’ve thought about as i’ve encountered those that think in black and white. It seems to me that these high profile figures most likely started out having doubts, reaching out, testing the water with their ideas, maybe before blogging existed. I’d imagine they met many opposing, similar and middle views starting out but kept getting encouraged by those with similar views and maybe the number of opposing views diminished, ultimately feeding their, sometimes but not always, extreme views.

    These I find interesting, frustrating but most of all, something to learn from.

  4. v02468 says:

    I think this post is relevant to the Hitchens bit: http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2010/08/31/collins-is-okay/

    I do wonder sometimes whether the role Mohler/Myers have attracts individuals who only see black and white. If it does, then they may not feel any pressure to ‘change’ their views, it’s what fits their personality anyway. It’s a sad state in any case.

  5. justintopp says:

    Good thoughts everyone. At 32, I shouldn’t already feel disillusioned about the ability for real discussion in the public sphere. Hopefully it will change in the future…

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  7. Stuart says:

    Wow Justin, your post over at Scot mcknight’s blog has gone stellar, I even saw it re-tweeted by BioLogos.

    Kudos and well deserved it’s a great post!

  8. justintopp says:

    Stuart,

    I was more afraid than excited that this would happen. Looking at many of the comments over there, it is clear that they are not focusing on what was written, but instead on defending a position and ripping me apart. I’m refraining from joining because I simply don’t want to get involved. And this “discussion” is a big reason why I think blog comments do NOT promote actual and real discourse between people holding highly disparate views.

  9. Stuart says:

    Understood. And for what it’s worth I think you are doing fantastically well over there and you are coming across as exceptionally calm and reasoned.

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